I subscribe to no religious faith, but I defend the right of members of any faith to worship in accordance with their faith without interference from the state, and to live out their beliefs in their daily lives, and without interference or persecution or threats or sectarian abuse calculated to lead to violence. I support their right not to be discriminated against in employment, in business or in politics.
I also believe in freedom of the individual within the rule of law in a secular democracy, and I expect the state to reflect core values that are shared by all in that democracy, values that are best expressed by and derived from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
What I oppose with every fibre of my being is any attempt by a religious group, or coalition of religious groups to attempt to deny these core human rights to anyone within their faith group or groups, or attempt to impose a belief that is not supported by or founded in law in the wider society of which that that faith group or coalition of faith groups is a part, beliefs based on holy books, ancient writings and ancient traditions.
I extend that opposition to political philosophies or political parties, whether religious based or ideologically based, that seek to subvert the processes of democracy and the rule of law to deny core human rights to any individual or group, and to impose ideological behaviours and constraints that deny core human rights.
The fact that most religions subscribe to the core values of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, either wholeheartedly, or in some case, nominally, does not mean that religious groups or any particular religious tradition or faith group invented them or owns them. The essence of these core values of the human species, painfully developed and asserted, often in the face or religious or secular persecution, the rack, the scaffold, the stake, the firing squad, the gas chamber, the executioner’s block, is that they are the fundamental, shared core of our common humanity, and not the property of any faith or ideology.
For all of the above reasons, I support and will defend a secular democracy and I am opposed to any move towards a theocratic state, and I oppose faith schools, because they have a single core purpose – to indoctrinate, and I include within my definition of faith schools institutions supported by an ideologically-based or totalitarian state that professes no religion, but inculcate a rigid ideology, such as those that existed in the USSR or Mao’s China, or Hitler’s Germany or regimes such as Pol Pot’s.
MY CORE BELIEFS AND MY POLITICS
Anyone who holds strong social democratic values will sooner or later find that they create a conflict with the mundane realities of their political affiliation and their political party. I am no exception to this, and some of what I am about to say may leave the Scottish National Party unhappy at this crucial stage in Scottish history when a great objective – the independence of Scotland – is within sight of being achieved.
A political party - and a master politician and a great political strategist and statesman such as Alex Salmond - must balance all the forces within the society it hopes to govern and to transform. Scottish society has within it three churches grounded in three great religious faiths – Christian, Judaic and Islamic.
A politician who ignored the reach and influence of such institutions would not survive for very long, but equally a politician who allowed himself or herself to be dominated by them, and who allowed them to exert an undemocratic influence on the core values of a democracy would not deserve to lead a nation.
Some political prices are too high to pay. So I must speak out as an individual, and hope that others will do likewise, even if boats are rocked.
THE TWO LETTERS – The Herald
The debate that has been building for some time now, at first a cloud no bigger than a man’s hand, but now heading for a storm, is the issue of gay marriage, covered by me as best I could in a recent blog.
Two very recent letters to The Herald have now crystallised the essence of the religious opposition, one from the Catholic standpoint and one from the Muslim viewpoint. Both of these religious groups now appear to speak with a single voice, although I can only hope that this is the voice of the institution and not the unanimous voice of all lay Catholics and Muslims. (The voice of the Kirk has yet to speak out authoritatively, but many individual voices within the Kirk have spoken out and they are divided.)
The first letter I refer to appeared in Monday’s Herald – the 17th – from a Michael McMullen. The header the Herald gives it is - Church is duty bound to speak out against the promotion of sin – which is a fair summary of its content. Church is duty bound to speak out
Michael McMullen’s last paragraph says unequivocally where he stands and where he believes the Catholic church stands -
“As a missionary and teaching institution, the Catholic church and its ‘practising membership’ can ‘never’ accept sin. It is duty bound to oppose it: thus its bishops speak out, because they are expected to. This is especially true when a powerful lobby or elite is hell bent on promoting sin.”
Mr. McMullen was attacking Iain Macwhirter’s article on this matter, and his quotation marks refer to comments from that article.
The second letter from the Herald today – the 19th – is from Bashir Maan, a man with a proud record of achievement in Scotland, widely respected both within the Asian community and Scottish society, carrying a name that resonates for the SNP.
He opens by saying that he fully support Michael McMullen’s comments, and he closes with words than send a chill down my social democratic, liberal spine -
“No one has the right or the authority to change the divine scriptures to suit certain times or certain people or for the sake of political correctness.”
I fear that those words and that sentiment will be fully endorsed by Cardinal O’Brien and his Scottish bishops. and by certain voices within the Kirk, and by some MSPs, including some SNP MSPs.
As someone committed to a secular democracy, I find them deeply dangerous, medieval in nature, and a denial of our democratic values and the rule of law. They are an attempt to assert religious values and ancient and highly-contested writings from another age as binding for all time, not only on those who subscribe to them, but to others who do not, and they are in conflict not only with the inalienable human rights of a minority but potentially with the rule of law and democratic processes.
To anyone who thinks that a political process dominated by a specific religion, its doctrines and its concepts of ‘sin’, and ‘family values’, one that has moved from being a secular democracy to becoming effectively a theocracy is a good thing, I recommend a study of Franco’s Spain, or the Republic of Ireland, or of anyone of a number of Muslim states.
And we don’t have to delve into the distant past to see such ‘values’ in operation – the recent history of the Catholic Church in Ireland, in Britain and in America and the abuse scandals, from the Magdalene laundries to child abuse and the protection of child abusers by the hierarchy, tells an appalling story.
One might think that the appalling brutalities and persecutions of minorities and the opposition in Franco’s regime in Spain, fully and unequivocally supported by the Catholic Church, are a distant memory. Not so.
A documentary on BBC2 last night – Spain Stolen Children – demonstrates with chilling force the application of the ‘family values’ of the Catholic Church, with the connivance of the law, the police and the state, that resulted in the theft and sale of children by nuns, priests and doctors, a scandal that has been suppressed since the death of Franco in 1975 by the supposedly democratic regimes that replaced him, but is now growing to a scandal of monumental proportions – a crime against humanity.
Here are my edited clips of the programme, an attempt to catch its essence in nine minutes or so – but the full one hour programme should be watched, painful and distressing as it is, to appreciate what the dangers are for Scotland.
Perhaps Cardinal O’Brien, his ever-vocal bishops, and all those who have had a lot to say about what a terrifying threat to family values and the stability of society the attempt to allow to people of the same sex to pledge their vows in a civil ceremony and call it marriage represents, could offer some comment on what the values of two societies dominated by just those religious values actually produced in Spain, in the Republic of Ireland and elsewhere.
Perhaps Bashir Maan, a good man who has contributed enormously to Scottish society, should consider just what he is endorsing. And lay Catholics, Muslims and Protestants should also consider what some religious leaders who claim to speak for them are saying in their name.
Alex Salmond now has the opportunity – and the duty – to demonstrate that he is the true statesman that I and many others firmly believe him to be, by standing up for the rights of all the people of Scotland, and resisting the pressures, the blandishments, the thinly-concealed political threats of withdrawal or democratic or financial support by sectional – and sectarian – interest groups.
Same sex marriage - Moridura blog
A bit of a rant, so it's difficult to know where to start in reacting to it.
ReplyDeleteAny group -particularly those with a key role in many people's lives such as the major religions- have a right to contribute to any social debate. Whether they will be successful in that debate will depend on their power to persuade others of their viewpoint.
I would like that process of persuasion to be conducted as rationally as possible. Suggestions that listening to religious leaders and engaging with the detail of their arguments will lead to Franco's Spain is about as rational and conducive to calm debate as my suggesting that your views will recreate Hoxha's Albania.
Somebody's ranting here, and it isn't me, Lazarus. This is Spain today, it was Ireland, and the UK just yesterday - the lawsuits - and the apologies - are still in progress and still being made. But like many defenders of this kind of thing, you have a reality proof wall down the middle of your brain. It's called denial, often caused by early religious indoctrination.
ReplyDeleteThanks for posting, Lazarus.
Thank you for providing the opportunity for discussion, Peter, but your comments here are hand waving, not argument. Assuming we are talking about the issue of same sex marriage, abuse of children (particularly in other countries within very different and specific national arrangements of state and church) is not relevant to the discussion. It may be relevant to other discussions, but not to the question of whether it is wise for Scotland to change the nature of a longstanding institution -the family- whose function is to ensure the successful rearing of the next generation.
ReplyDeleteI appreciate that it is very difficult for those who are convinced of their own rightness to consider that their views may well be erroneous. But even the elementary precautions of rational engagement -focus on argument rather than persons, attention to detail rather than blanket condemnation- would help in building a more reflective public space in Scotland.
I have set out my arguments very full, Lazarus (and under my own name, not a Google pseudonymn) in this blog and an earlier blog
ReplyDeleteGay marriage – what is proposed, and the root of religious opposition
Unlike the religious groups opposing this proposed amendement to the law, I am not reliant on divine authority and disputed interpretations of ancient manuscripts to make my case, only on logic, the law of the land, and concepts of equity and civil rights.
I have a personal postion, but I am not "convinced of my own rightness" - I have a viewpoint, one that I back with rational argument, not religious dogma, and my democratic vote, relying on the democratic process to balance it with other arguments.
Both of the letter writers I quote are however, convinced of their 'rightness, and describe homosexuality as a sin, and I have little doubt that they and their respective creeds would be happy to reverse the law and recriminalise it if they were able to exercise the kind of power over democratic government that they aspire to.
The public statements of Cardinal O'Brien and his chorus of bishops is certainly not calculated to build 'a more reflective public space' in Scotland.
As for for espousing family values and the liberty of the individual and religious freedom - well, the Catholic Church and Islam both have demonstrated very clearly all over the world, in ancient times and modern, just what they mean by that.
If they want to cut off their noses and not vote SNP then they'll get the same shower of Brit nat incompetents they had before, only worse since Labour don't have their Westminster masters and the lot that are left in Scotland paint a grim picture of where self-indulgent politics can sink to.
ReplyDeleteIf the catholics or whoever wish to rant against an independence referendum then that's their nose they're cutting off.
It will become law eventually whoever is in power. Westminster (that bastion of forward looking thought) is even going to vote it into law.
We vote for independence on its own merits or we don't, this is a side issue and it's time it was decided and done.
As the news-comedian John Stewart said, 'Is it the marriage word that gets them all riled?'.
21st century, it's time the Scots acted like it.
It is 'the marriage word' that's bugging some churches - they think they own the copyright, and the franchise!
ReplyDeleteBut it will pass, as you say, Stevie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isYARareENE&feature=player_embedded
ReplyDeleteAlec Salmond's perspective more or less.
Thanks for the link, Stevei - I'll add it now!
ReplyDeleteIf they are so mad at the SNP for this, who are they going to vote for? Even Labour and the LD support it.
ReplyDeleteExpressing one's beliefs is a good thing. They have every right to do that. What they don't have a right to do is force their beliefs on others by passing those beliefs into law.
This is a fight that is going on all over the world against religions that want to control people by force rather than persuasion.